1977 300D - your thoughts?
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RE: 1977 300D - your thoughts? - 8/22/2008 1:09:29 PM
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cycleboy
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The NADA value is anywhere from $3800 - $8600. Please do not convert this (or any other) car to WVO. Here''s the most definitive resource on the argument: http://www.scribd.com/doc/4022579/vegetable-oil-as-fuel The long and short of it is don''t do it. You get more long term engine wear and increased emissions. Sure, dope-smoking hippies all think this is the latest rage, but dope-smoking hippies don''t exactly think and reason rationally.
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RE: 1977 300D - your thoughts? - 8/22/2008 3:39:54 PM
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jimishadow
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what do dope smoking hippies have to do with wvo conversion?I know some beer drinking idiots who have svo conv also....how ignorent are you cycle boy?keep typing and show us.
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RE: 1977 300D - your thoughts? - 8/22/2008 3:58:11 PM
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cycleboy
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Well jim, the article also covers beer drinking idiots with svo conversions. The wisdom still says don''t do it. The bottom line is the Mercedes engine was not made to run on anything other than diesel and you will shorten its life as a result of doing so. The supposed savings are a phantom because you also need to factor in the time to acquire and process your fuel and the requisite state road fuel taxes as well as the shortened life of the car. There is no valid argument for running a Mercedes on anything other than diesel.
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RE: 1977 300D - your thoughts? - 8/23/2008 7:30:55 AM
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jimishadow
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the first diesel was designed and built to run on peanut oil.hows this for a valid reason,i feed my family by running diesel trucks,i made a good living when fuel was 160 a gal,now at almost 5.oogal i was putting $275 to $300 a day as opposed to 80.i converted my ud truck to veggie oil and im raking in the cash again.collecting the oil is a matter of one day a week putting a 275 tank on the bac and drive around collecting the oil. the engine runs fine,i put 25000 miles since may plus so far so good.
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RE: 1977 300D - your thoughts? - 8/23/2008 8:14:51 AM
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cycleboy
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That the first diesel ran on peanut oil is completely irrelevant. Engineering in the 1800s is not the same as now, or even 30 years ago. The engine in the original Wright flyer was only made to run for less than 5 minutes before seizing. How does that compare? It doesn''t and that''s my point. If you think it''s worth your time and the shortened life of your engines, that''s your dime. I bill my time out at $40-$60/hour. One day of collecting and processing oil would be a gross loss of $320-$480, never mind the loss incurred by destroying a fine car. The IRS raised the deductible mileage rate in July to $.585/mile from the increase to $.505 (from $.485) at the beginning of the year, an increase of 8 cents. That extra $2.00 (figuring my mileage at 25mpg) per gallon more than makes up for the increase in the cost of diesel. There are also the additional hassles of storing and processing the oil and figuring out your total use so you can pay your state''s fuel tax. My neighbors would have a conniption and I''m quite sure I couldn''t get a license for a home-based fuel storage/processing facility within my city limits. But, the bottom line is that running fuels other than diesel in your car will shorten its life in the long run and, if you don''t do a proper conversion, can be disastrous in the short term. You are almost guaranteed to be the last owner of that particular car because it will never get converted back (not cost effective to rebuild the engine on all but the most valuable cars) and you''ll just part it out after you blow the engine. But, nobody can tell you what to do with your car and your money. The guy asked for an opinion and I gave him mine. As we all know, opinions are like a**holes: everybody has one and they often stink.
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RE: 1977 300D - your thoughts? - 8/23/2008 8:44:08 AM
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brazilio
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He asked for an opinion about the value of the car, not some diatribe about how WVO will ruin a car, regardless of whether or not your opinion on using it is valid. A lot of 300D owners acquire their cars specifically because it''s well suited for running of SVO and a lot of posters act all shocked when their precious model gets used in a method that doesn''t involve dumping 10k into restoring the car to original condition and running off only diesel.
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RE: 1977 300D - your thoughts? - 8/23/2008 6:10:27 PM
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jimishadow
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im gonna convert all my diesels to run on veggie oil.if you read the link cycleboy has posted it states the two tank system is the way to go,it will not ruin your engine,the key is filtering,boil out any water in oil and deliver to injectors at rite temp.as far as buying an old car, if you dont know what you are doing have a pro look at it,not the owners mechanic,there are services that look at used cars for a price.chec for rot and rust,car fax is a good idea also.good luck and go green ,save money,less emissions,drive a benz,i love the old ones as they are timeless
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