Proper claying techniques....
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Proper claying techniques.... - 1/4/2005 8:56:59 PM
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exceldetail
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No complete detail is complete unless you have "clayed" your vehicles surface. Kind of a strange name for a product, but I assure you its completely safe when used as directed. It can be rather intimidating if you have never used before, but once you have, you’ll wonder why you waited so long. Clay is designed to pull contaminants away or simply sheer them from your paint surface, safely, and this is accomplished with ease.
So what equipment or materials is needed? There’s no equipment needed at all! All you need is clay, and a lubricant, and a micro fiber towel for wiping upon completion. Now you can skip the towel if you elect to clay while washing.
There are many brands of clay available, and at least two are usually available at your local auto paint supply store or Automotive parts store (Kragen, Pep Boys). Meguiars makes a new version, better than its preceding version, Mothers makes a nice kit, comes with the clay, a lubricant (Showtime QD), and a small sample of Pre Wax Cleaner. The original Clay Magic I believe still comes with a lubricant as well. Make sure you buy or are using “Fine grade” in the beginning stages.
So lets get started !
Lets assume, it’s the beginning of summer, and you want your ride looking the ultimate! You begin with your normal wash routine (see Proper washing techniques), you’ve removed any tar, gum, and assorted crap stuck to the lower panels with a citrus cleaner or tar/adhesive remover (3M comes to mind). Now you have dried the surfaces with a waffle weave drying towel, and "she" looks good, you rub your hand along the top of the hood, and you feel what seems like specs of sand (If you think it feels good at this point, put your hand in a sandwich baggy)..... Close analysis, its actually tiny bits of metal (Brake linings, rail dust), or just normal industrial fallout. Its inescapable, pollutants happen to everyone, and the reason we need to remove these pollutants is, metal contributes to rust, and once rust starts, it’s usually not good! Not to mention physical appearance anyway.
Make sure your working in a shaded area, on a cool surface. Once you get started, the whole process can be completed in about ½ hr. Lets start with the hood. Unwrap your clay product, and take about 1/3 to ½ of it in the palm of your hand. Place the other portion back in the wrapper it came in, you may need this in case you drop the 1st half. If you do drop it, discard it. Spray the lubricant on about ½ to 1/3 of the surface, just as you would while quick detailing it. Take the clay in your hand and knead it until its somewhat soft. Mold to about the size of a small pancake, and place at your fingertips for easy control. Gently place the clay on the surface and glide it back in a front to back motion (grill to window). Use about 10-12 inch passes and overlap each pass. Fold the clay after each area has been cleaned. You will feel some resistance at first, but with passing motions, you’ll be able to tell the clay is removing pollutants! If you feel too much resistance, your either not using enough lubricant or your surface is REAL dirty. A good way to tell you’re not using enough lube or if your surface is too warm, is the clay is leaving product on the surface. This can be removed, with a micro fiber towel. After each area has been clayed, wipe and buff dry with a micro fiber towel.
Clay will remove a portion of wax or sealant protection, so you should follow up with polishing and sealing/waxing. Clay is not a polish! It will remove contaminants, small areas of road tar, road paint, over spray, fallout, and light oxidation. Any areas larger than an eraser tip should be cleaned with a cleaner prior to using clay, otherwise you will end up polluting your clay for future use. You should be able to clay your surface half a dozen times, depending on the quantity of contaminants.
If anyone has additional comments or concerns, feel free to post, or PM me !
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RE: Proper claying techniques.... - 5/20/2006 2:47:13 PM
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seth2000
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Excellent post. Don't even think about using any paint enhancement/protection product without claying first. I see too many guys waxing right on top of the contaminates.
Here's my tip on the process. Same as above post except after washing the car, mix up a fresh batch of your normal car wash suds. Using a large sponge, squeeze an ample amount of the suds on a large area to be clayed and have at it. Obviously, it is critical that you do this in a cool shaded area and rinse as you go. With this method the claying will go about twice as fast, do a better job and save money over using a lubricant, such as Meguiar's "Quick Detailer," about $5 retail. One more thing, if you accidentally drop the clay on the ground, that piece is usually toast, although you may be able to cut around it and get virgin clay.
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RE: Proper claying techniques.... - 5/23/2006 12:12:18 AM
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seth2000
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I just tried that plastic bag test. Unbelievable! Warning to the anal retentive, you won't be able to sleep at night after finding out how much garbage is stuck in your paint.
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RE: Proper claying techniques.... - 10/1/2006 8:23:20 PM
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brian576
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I read this thread AFTER I waxed my car earlier today...but thinking that since it removes contaminants anyways, it would take off what I did earlier, so I ran up to Kragens and got the Mother's clay bar kit for like fifteen bucks, came home, tested a little area on a different car and was amazed at what it did there that I did half of my hood on my '87 300E and can compare what it's like with the newly waxed half from ealier today and all I can say is that I wish I'd read the post earlier in the day since it's like day and night in terms of the feeling, not to mention the look of the car...I guess I'll be spending more time on my car tonight, darn.
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RE: Proper claying techniques.... - 11/1/2006 9:47:20 AM
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JCT
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I havent seen anyone discussing the proper claying technique for the sides of the vehicle? Are you better off moving the clay side to side or up and down motion? Also does anyone how safe the clay is on bumpers,glass and trim? Thanks
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RE: Proper claying techniques.... - 11/6/2006 1:26:42 AM
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raymond~
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dont know which is 'best' but it's probably safe to say side-to-side is acceptable
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s5755opM7X0
clay is a bit expensive, running about $20 @ # or so. if you use it on glass or chrome, it'll do the job but it'll get this expensive bit of silly putty dirty quicker. at a certain point, you'd have to toss. since glass and chrome is quite a bit harder than paint, i'd save the clay on those and use a less expensive method, such as nylon scrub pad or some such....and vinegar or other.
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RE: Proper claying techniques.... - 11/6/2006 8:45:16 AM
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JCT
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Thanks 4 the info I'lll definitely save the chrome and glass for last!
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RE: Proper claying techniques.... - 5/1/2007 2:10:35 PM
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betmerick
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I had my detailer do a "clay job" to my 2000 SL as there was some sap on the paint. The paint now feels like it just came off the showroom floor!!
It looked like he washed it, did the clay treatment, sealed the work with a buffer, then waxed it. It took him 3.5 hours and the results were fantastic!!
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