sleepwalker
4/19/2004 7:51:15 AM
as far as i know they already have stopped producing those hydro pneumatic suspension because of leak problem. ride comfort problem is another reason.
when i used to work in saudi arabia last 1988, arabs are very proud of it because they don't even need a jack to change the wheel.
Lugnut
4/19/2004 9:02:57 AM
Do you mean each wheel can be extened independently?
stile - alpine
4/19/2004 9:23:25 AM
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ORIGINAL: Lugnut
Yeah, that adjustable suspension is nice. What's it for? Do French roads have lots of big rocks on them?
I don´t know about France, but in Brazil we have terrible tracks, too many holes. So it´s very interesting for us here to have that suspension, but the only one that works nice in high speed is this suspension that comes from factory. The air suspensions that some people install are terrible, very stiff, and your car will react as a boat over 100 miles per hour.
In the Citroen Xantia, the front and back wheels can be extened independently, but not every wheel is independent. So if you want to have your back high, you can. But JUST your rear right wheel high, you can´t. The left rear wheel is also going up with it.
sleepwalker, the only problem my friend had with that suspension was when he has traveling to the Northeast of Brazil, and he cought a big hole in the road (he was in pretty high speed). So the problem was not really the suspension, I think any car would have problems like that in the same situation.
and they still produce cars with that suspension. The Citroen C5 is produced with the same suspension that Xantia used.
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sleepwalker
4/19/2004 10:04:15 AM
yeah, right.
although the MB W220 S600 got the same system (ABC) active body control, the wheels will not retract once you put a block of bricks on the side member because of the design.
i was amaze to see that citroen wheel coming up like a semi-trailing axle of actros or freightliner trucks.
stile - alpine
4/19/2004 10:48:41 AM
sleepwalker
4/19/2004 11:38:20 AM
no demasiado malo veo que uno citroen pero era demasiado lejano saber si pertenece a su amigo. tengo gusto de esas tres muchachas especialmente la que esta' en los pantalones vaqueros blancos.
Horsepower
4/19/2004 12:44:22 PM
Ui sleepwalker you're in big trouble if Lugnut sees this language he doesn't understand
sleepwalker
4/19/2004 1:41:48 PM
i am sure that more muchachas if lugnut's '55 Bel Air is among the show cars.
stile - alpine
4/19/2004 5:30:24 PM
where did you see girls??
in the BSBTUNING site (where the Opel Calibra is)??
I didn´t see no girls with the Citroen, maybe because my friend is married!!
and yes, Lugnut IS going to kill you!! lol
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Lugnut
4/19/2004 7:13:52 PM
So these Saudi guys carry bricks in their car to fix a flat? Please explain. They don't sound too smart to me. Maybe it's the desert heat.
I have no idea what you said in that tweetie-talk post. I used a Portuguese (Brazil) translator and it only made it worse. I don't kill for fun so you're safe.
sleepwalker
4/19/2004 11:54:41 PM
stile - alpine
4/20/2004 11:07:05 PM
Lugnut, he didn´t write in Portuguese. That´s Spanish!! That´s why your translator made it worse
and what are you talking about bricks??? I didn´t understand where you got that from :-S
sleepwalker, I didn´t know you had navegated on the Carros de Rua website and found girls there. Well, they seem to be very simpathetic girls, don´t you think?? lol
Santana has been in production here in Brazil since 1989, I think. So in 15 years of production it sure got famous. Now it´s not a "best seller" anymore, but VW still produces it.
And by the way: where are you now??
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Lugnut
4/21/2004 4:50:06 AM
Geez! How am I supposed to know it's Spanish versus Brazilian-Portuguese? Okay, give me some time and I'm sure I'll have something to say to sleepwalker and his three-star-watching Tweetie turd.
A few posts up sleepwalker described Saudis being proud that they could remove a wheel with a flat tire by using the pnuematic suspension. He drew a picture in my mind where the suspension (and therefore the car) would be jacked up then bricks placed under the side or corner of the car where the flat tire was (not under the tire). When the suspension was retracted, the wheel would remain in the air so it could be removed. In order to do this they would need to carry around the necessary bricks. I don't think that's very smart.
- Those bricks costs money in gas to haul around. Not a huge issue in Saudi Arabia, but it still costs to haul weight.
- If the bricks aren't totally secure, they will roll around and dent the rear quarter panels from the inside out. They will also weaken from rolling around and may break apart just from that.
- Bricks are one of the most dangerous items you can put under a raised car to hold it up. Bricks are strong, yet weak. If you press lightly but firmly in a certain way on a brick it will crack or crumble. Ask any brick mason. It would be much safer to use their AK-47.
- They can just use the jack that came with the car. Use the suspension to get it up then just put an extended jack under the car to hold it up while the suspension is retracted. If there's no weight on the jack a baby can extend it.
sleepwalker
4/21/2004 7:22:30 AM
not all of them doing it anyway lugnut. i saw it beside the place where every friday they sell car by bidding! car was so cheap that i earn extra money from my $150 monthly salary by buying a small car, repair it and sell it again for profit.
i am now working in shanghai stile - alpine. haven't you clicked my name to see the profile?
stile - alpine
4/21/2004 11:30:45 AM
now I understood the brick´s story!! lol
it doesn´t seem very smart, Lugnut, I agree with you
sleepwalker, I had not seen your profile, I just did it now. I put you in my MSN list, if that´s ok with you
