Radar?

I was wondering does anybody know if car radar are legal or illegal in oklahoma.
Any Ideas Would Be Appreciated
-Justin

I assume u mean radar detector and yes they are Legal in OK.

They are illegal in VA and DC. Legal everywhere else in the US.

Do they work? I got a $276 ticket-ouch! for going 56 in a 30. It was a speed trap because it was on a country road, no residence or schools nearby and to be going 30mph, well, no one would think to go 30 on this stretch of road. BTW, is there any real way to challenge a radar gun? I've heard they aren't accurate unless the road is straight. In my situation, there were no straight sections. Do I have a case? Probably just an urban myth.

Check here Speed Trap Exchange for info on fighting speed trap tickets. While you're there, report that speed trap you got caught in.

Do radar detectors work? Yes.

Will they prevent you from ever getting a speeding ticket? No.

If you have a radar detector, do you still have to be otherwise vigilant to avoid getting a speeding ticket? Yes. Use your eyes, your smarts, and the detector as tools.

Just a personal opinion from using different detectors, but the only detector worth spending money on is a Valentine One. It takes a while to learn how to use any detector effectively, so don't expect any magic out of the box. The detector will always work the same. You, however, will change.

56 in a 30? 26 over? That's reckless driving isn't it? Did you get off with just a fine of $276? If so, I'd consider myself lucky.

Yea, I don't believe there is a distinction between speeding and wreckless driving on my ticket. I get your point, though, and I'd think 26 over would qualify. It just pisses me off because it was 6am, absolutely no one else on the road-well, no one except the revenue collector in a cop car. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the police and the work they do, and I suppose if you're going to give out speeding tickets, it'd be hard to ignore someone going 26 over. What really irks me is that in WA, they send ea. moving infraction to the insurance company, which must increase the drivers premium for 3 years. (That is where the 26 over may really get me.) The ticket will end up costing me $1000 or more with the increase in premium. Considering I've been driving as long as I have and never made a claim for an accident I caused, it seems excessive.

Yeah, I hear ya. I hate laws that adjust our attitude by emptying our wallets. The cop was there for the very reason you pointed out. A lonely road with an unreasonably low speed limit. He knows people scoot along there. It was a classic speed trap. Was it the end of the month?

I think speeding should be a secondary offense. By that I mean a cop shouldn't be able to pull you over for just speeding. He could only give you a speeding ticket if your speeding caused a primary offense, like mashing someone else's car. Up to a point anyway. Say no primary speeding tickets unless you're going X over the limit, or somehow causing mayhem like weaving through traffic to get ahead of the pack, for example.

by the time your radar detector goes off they've probably already got you. i had one in my car but i took it out. i have never received a speeding ticket but i have been pulled over for 130 in a 70, 101 in a 70, 95 in a 65, 147 in a 50 (i know/ work with a lot of cops). now when i had my lowriders i was pulled over everyday. in one night i got pulled over 3 times in a span of 12 minutes...

Lugnut- cops dont have quotas anymore... they used to but now they can write as many tickets as they want :) ;)

What we need is a defensive tool like a radar jammer. The FCC would hate those though. My electrical engineer brother told me how to make one which could be switched on and off. Problem, ALL communication devices in the area would be jammed too. We're working on it.

They already have radar jammers out but they are quickly becoming illegal in individual states.

Like I said, a detector won't prevent you from ever getting a ticket. I've never had that pipe dream. But they are an effective tool in locating radar.

If I'm the only car on the road, for example, and the cop turns his radar on when he sees me, there's not much a detector or a good eye can do about it.

If he has the radar on before I see him or he sees me, then the detector will squawk and warn me. If, on the other hand, a car ahead of me gets radar'd, my detector will squawk and warn me. In either case, I can slow down before the cop directs his attention at me.

These are just examples and not meant to be all-inclusive, so let's not get lost in a bunch of details over what a cop has, how he uses it, how I drive, and driving in traffic. Thanks for your input, though.

I've never heard of a commercially available radar jammer that works effectively for locating police radar. I've heard of several ripoff jammers that only work if you're a few feet from the radar, like on the hood of the cop car. If you know of one that works, please share that info. I'd like to maybe get one.

Oh yeah, for a few good laser jammers, for my speed demons out there, you can pick one up for the price between $350 for a basic one to $600 for a good one.

exactly. i have heard that garage door openers can scramble a police radar... dont know if there is any truth to that.

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Like I said, a detector won't prevent you from ever getting a ticket. I've never had that pipe dream. But they are an effective tool in locating radar.

If I'm the only car on the road, for example, and the cop turns his radar on when he sees me, there's not much a detector or a good eye can do about it.

If he has the radar on before I see him or he sees me, then the detector will squawk and warn me. If, on the other hand, a car ahead of me gets radar'd, my detector will squawk and warn me. In either case, I can slow down before the cop directs his attention at me.

These are just examples and not meant to be all-inclusive, so let's not get lost in a bunch of details over what a cop has, how he uses it, how I drive, and driving in traffic. Thanks for your input, though.

Well older garage openers, some of them, have been known to cause intrference to a radar everynow and then. The new ones don't. Or there haven't been any cases of them doing that yet.

But hopefully no one thinks that these instruments free you from getting a ticket? You still can't expect to speed through a 55 zone doing full throttle. At that point the police probably will say to hell with the radar and us his car to guage you as he catches up to give you a ticket.
Then with radar jammers, some new police radars come with a radar detector/jammer detector, especially in states where jammers are illegal.
So these items by no means make you a God. But it suppose to be a reminder that there is a police ahead and give you a second chance to adjust your speed accordingly. Don't you hate getting pulled over only to have the police say that you was comng up pretty fast? Even after you slowed down a while back.

But then again, it the radar is jammed, he can't use the radar in court as evidence, which sometimes can make your case a little easier. (A couple of skilled friends already tested that theory and either got completey off or got the amount they was speeding reduced.)

Some garage door openers and building alarm systems set off radar detectors. I didn't know they interfered with the police radar.

The price of a jammer isn't important to me at this point. Do you know of a brand, a specific jammer, that really works? I can find them for sale easy enough, but like I said, the ones I've found don't work.

in some states it is required for the officer who pulled you over to show you the radar. in Tennessee they dont have to show you unless you ask. in VA i think they have to but im not 100% (i live close to the VA/TN line and work in Bristol). but yeah i hate getting pulled over and them saying "going a little fast back there." i always respond with HA! you should have seen how fast i was going before i seen you! like i said, i know/ work with alot of cops so i get out of tickets... not saying that one day i wont but everytime i have been pulled over i have gotten out.

Lugnut- i dont know of any scramblers but i did talk with an officer who said that the ones he has seen/ heard of dont work.

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... use his car to gauge you as he catches up to give you a ticket

This is VASCAR for those who don't know. This is the same system they use from aircraft. They time how long it takes you to travel between two known points and calculate your average speed. By "known" I mean they know the distance between the two points.

A cop in a rolling car can start timing you from a known point, then speed off like he's after a donut, but park at the next known point and wait for you to drive by, record the time it took you to get there from the first point, then calculate your average speed. Sneaky buggers.

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They are illegal in VA and DC. Legal everywhere else in the US.

Yeah, my ex got popped for using one when we were driving to FL from PA. They took it!

Glad you gotten out of your tickets. I'm usually not so lucky, but they never really throw the book at me.

it helps to know cops! if not i probably wouldnt have a license right now. i dont always drive fast but sometimes its just fun to put her in Sport Mode and let her fly. the only ticket i ever got was a traffic accident and they really didnt have a choice. it was only 49 dollars so i wasnt too worried about it. wasnt there, a while back, a radar company that said if you got a ticket they would pay for it? does anyone remember what company that was?

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wasnt there, a while back, a radar company that said if you got a ticket they would pay for it? does anyone remember what company that was?

Most have offered to at one time or another. There are only two right now that offer to, I think, but I don't recall who they are right now. Rocky Mountain something-or-other and K40, maybe? I dunno for sure.