Bush or Kerry? - Page 2

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Islam blinds its believers from their surroundings. Muslims, especially fundamentalists, are incapable of civilized reasoning. They think like animals. Like pigs. They have been brainwashed into a state of extreme paranoia starting when they are very young. They feel threatened by all non-Muslims.

They don't want peace. Muslims do not know the meaning of peace. They do not practice it. They believe their religion directs them to kill and maim innocent people. If they can't find an American, European, christian, or Jew to kill, then they kill each other. That's what they do. They kill people. Any people. They are too mentally retarded to differentiate between right and wrong.

Tell me. What do you think Saddam would do if he came to America with his armies to take America away from President Bush, and won?

Would he be a human and repair the damage he did during the attack at great expense to his country?

Would he help the liberated Americans form a new autonomous government?

Would he turn over control of America to the citizens?

Would he walk away with empty pockets and not take anything for his personal bank account?

Can you see the difference yet, or do you still have your blinders on?

No, George W. Bush NEVER declared war on Iraq, and he never will.
The President of the United States of America CAN NOT declare war. Only Congress can.

See the difference now?
When Saddam Hussein was president, he could do anything he wanted without anyone's approval.
But as for Mr. Bush here in the U.S., he can send troops, but he has a 60-day time period for him to explain the action to the Congress, Then its up to the Congress to decide.

GW Bush is a good father who tried to protect his family.

i like him, it's terrorism that drives him to do a safe way for future.

as for kerry, he is now busy collecting donations through internet.

I also like Bush he is a God fearing God loving president with faith and conviction. Lots of bad things are said of him but no proof are seen or shown by the accusers. Could he be the choice of the silent majority

Thank u sir, i thing all religion teach to make peace, loving each other in the world. In Al'Quran, not even one ayat said to kill human being (christian, jew, or muslim). People who kill each other is Devil. I hope in this forum we can speak and open our mind, all of us. If we belive each other, nothing can make us apart, hat or killing each other. In the future, lets make living in this world like heaven, we and our child can live peacefull, loving and can breath normally, in every place in the world, not only in Europe, America, Australia.... Do you all agree.

Who rape the chinese, PIG.

And sir, no chinese in Indonesia, they all Indonesian, all of us is same, INDONESIAN.
Thank u... friend...

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And sir, no chinese in Indonesia, they all Indonesian, all of us is same, INDONESIAN.

is that so? then maybe something is wrong with the whole world because when i search in google, it returns 126,000 results.

if there's a fire, there's a smoke....right?


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There was a time when I would believe you. Muslims have proven to me over and over again that they speak out of both sides of their mouth. They bitch and moan about being helpless victims of these people and those people and how they only want peace, then they wrap their head in a diaper and start shooting and bombing everyone around them.

Are you brave enough to stand up in a public place in Indonesia and say what you're saying here? Are you brave enough to put a sign in front of your house? One that says, "Good Luck to America" How long would you live before a Muslim killed you?

If you want brotherhood with the rest of humanity you'll have to earn it. Either for the first time or earn it again. Just saying something sweet in anonymity won't cut it. I wouldn't turn my back on you.

Although there are undoubtedly Chinese in Indonesia and the rape claim is otherwise substantiated, the photo you referenced is a fake. It's from an Asian porno site.

yes, the photos are fake as claimed, but there were testimonies too. he was right also that they were indonesians and raped by indonesians, but their ethnicity is different. anyway, we got no proof about it so it must be as good as urban legends.

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In Al'Quran, not even one ayat said to kill human being

i'm just wondering about the stoning to death and beheading.

Just for info ...

About 3% of the population in Indonesia is Chinese. They are not well-received.

THank u, why u r so angry, in my mind, all human being is same, muslim, christian, and the others, ur right some people they call they are muslim, they like to kill , but people who call they r christian did the same thing. In all case not the religion, i think only the people. And from that condition, we have opinion the religion did that. Sorry my english not good enough how to explain that, i hope u can understand what i mean. Be cool brother, i wan to make friendship with u, all of u..... And dont blame muslim or christian,

About chinese, i dont like to call my brother and sister whit etnic, in my mind we all same, INDONESIAN, hope u can understand that.

ummm ... if you kill an "infidel," will you go to heaven and have seventy-two virgins and a bunch of fancy rugs? That's what your "Al'Quran" says and that's what your Imams teach, no?

Hey, I got news for you. My book says those virgins are Catholic nuns from the past. From back when they were all virgins. They each have a big wooden spoon and seventy-two of them take turns beating each stupid Muslim killer on his head for the rest of eternity.

be carefull when read that u dont understand, coz like in the holy bible, its a guidance for us when we live in the world. Same in Qur'an, its a story that we can learn from that, dont read as u read, ok, pls open ur mind sir, i belive no religion teach to hat people.......

If all muslim and people like u, thinking like that, no wonder we still kill each other......peace man.......

Yep, that's what I said. You people kill each other and it's no wonder. Your "Qur'an" and the Imams and clerics all teach it. That way, when Muslims kill, they can refer to their "holy" teachings for justification.

What is the "holy jihad" your "Qur'an" allows for, huh? Why are so many Imams and clerics declaring holy jihad on non-Muslims. The ones who don't openly declare it agree to it by staying quiet and not speaking out against it.

Christians carry a cross. Jews carry a Cross of David. Muslims carry an AK-47. Islam is an army, not a religion. A barbarian army.

Oops! Star of David. Sorry.

they love donkeys and sheeps too.

They sure do. They treat them much better than their sisters, daughters, and wives.

BUSH DE MAN

reguardless, things will always work themselves out, for the better or worse.

as far as the claims made of muslim indecency to other people in arabia or otherwise, it is no surprise. it happens everywhere and that is life. perhaps nobody remembers the japanesese's inhumane treatment of Chinese during the 2nd world war. surrender of Chinese troops earned them death as punishment for their shameful surrender.

as far as the bush/kerry election and the talk about how shameful it is to have to chose between the lesser of the 2 evils, i have to say this: if there was a clear choice to be made, we would not be having conversations such as these. whatever limitations do or do not exist, they have nevertheless given us the options presented to us today, and this is the reality of a democracy.

it's not the best it can be and it's certainly not the worst, but it is what it is until we decide otherwise.

I cannot disagree more with appeasers like you. Real Americans that have not been whipped into a limp noodle by liberal socialists and want to defend their lives and country will not turn the other cheek while Muslim indecencies to non-Muslims happens on our soil, either directly (as on 9/11/01) or indirectly (as being harbored or monetarily supported by other governments or organizations). Criminny! Muslim terrorism is not the way life must be. Therefore, we are and will continue to adjust Muslim attitude.

The Japanese, Chinese, or WWII have nothing to do with this. Neither do jelly doughnuts, radials tires, nor shooting stars.

On your other point, nobody chose to have two lousy choices ... or even one. Puh-lease!What a ridiculous notion. Explain why you think we could not discuss the differences between two good candidates just as we are discussing the differences between two lousy ones. You make no sense. Cream rises to the top nearly everywhere but in politics.

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Real Americans that have not been whipped into a limp noodle by liberal socialists and want to defend their lives and country will not turn the other cheek while Muslim indecencies to non-Muslims happens on our soil, either directly (as on 9/11/01) or indirectly (as being harbored or monetarily supported by other governments or organizations). Criminny! Muslim terrorism is not the way life must be. Therefore, we are and will continue to adjust Muslim attitude.

Explain why you think we could not discuss the differences between two good candidates just as we are discussing the differences between two lousy ones.

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Therefore, we are and will continue to adjust Muslim attitude.

What do you consider a real American? Are you saying a real American is one who has been granted US citizenship, or are you saying that a real American is one who is looking out for the best interest of Americans? Muslim indecencies towards non-muslims? Are you attempting to insinuate that of all those killed or injured in the Sep 11 tradgedy that none were Muslims? Need I remind you that the hijakers themselves were Muslims. Death is death, wheather by maurder, accident, or murder.

Why could we not be discussing the difference between 2 good candidates just as we are 2 bad candidates? It is first off a matter of opinion. Apparently, the both of us both consider our current choice of 2 candidates to be of the negative inclination. We could be discussing 2 good candidates, but that is not the situation is it? Let me clear up something i said earlier. I didn't mean to say this is the way it is in a democracy. I mean to say that this is the way it is in a "Capitalist" democracy. In a capitalist form of government, the only way to get ahead in the world is by ammassing greater yields of money (thus the capitalist "incentive"). as long as we live in a capitalist country, stature and position in this country will be obtained by holdings of wealth. (Understand now?) So, how would a poor man or someone like you or me, who really would be looking out for the best interests of the American people, ever be able to run for office and win? Thus, depending on how narrow your mind may or may not be, you should see what I am trying to say, which you bodly hinted in your last post that you were not able to do so. Hope this helps.

I almost forgot. You stated that we will continue to adjust Muslim attitude. Do you mean to adjust Muslim attidute domestically or internationally. In case you are a bit foggy on your constitutional rights, all Americans are entitiled to the freedom of religeon. The American way of life for immigrants is to assimilate into American way of life. No matter how hard they fight it, they will eventually assimilate to some degreee. What right do Americans have to force Muslim attitude one way or the other? You fail to realize that human beings don't just do things to do things. Unless they are buddah, most people do things for a reason. So far as the Sep 11 attacks, caused by Muslims calling themselves "terrorists", do you really think they did it just because they get a kick out of death? Of course not. The whole reason the pilots were "suicide terrorists" was to furthermore emphasize that these people really were dying for a cause. While it is not up to me to decide wheather their cause was valid or not, it is a cause none the less. And when someone is willing to give their own life for a cause, you better at least find out what that cause is, and investigate it with an open mind, or else your and my way of life could come to an end, (for failure to listen.) I really didn't want to write this much, but you asked a question about what I said, and even though you are an asshole, i feel it is my responsibility to at least give you the choice to to see a different perspective than your own, even though you are probably too narrow minded to consider it.

Your heart bleeds liberally. But don't worry. Others can see through the fog that blinds you. You'll be protected in spite of your efforts to empathize with the enemy's causes. Hopefully, you won't get your ass blown off while your arms are outstretched anticipating a loving embrace from them.

there's no valid reason for dying, much more taking some few more good people with you.

the first main reason why we are in this forum is because we love people, and we want to help each other. the opinion might differ, and all are free to express it as an idea.

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